Obama = Bush = Clinton = Global Labor Arbitrage

Obama gave a a speech calling for even more foreign guest workers and turning our higher educational system into a glorified green card ATM, all while recent college graduates cannot get any job.

Now we are under assault by various corporate cheap labor lobbying groups, seemingly under the direction of the White House as an organized propaganda campaign. Fictional statistics, bogus claims and lies are all over the main stream media as articles.

It's absolutely obscene to call for legislation which enables more offshore outsourcing, more flooding of the U.S. labor market, more denial of funds to American entrepreneurs and small business, all the while advanced skill U.S. Science and Technology professionals cannot get a job. Unemployed STEM include the very people who can innovate the future of America. They are of the wrong age, the wrong sex, the wrong disability and the wrong color for most U.S. corporations yet nothing happens to stop the brazen discrimination going on in high tech corporate America. Some companies will not hire anyone who actually needs a job!

Displacing an American worker with a H-1B does not create jobs. It loses jobs.

Obama's own example of Indian entrepreneurship has committed labor arbitrage. They hired a foreign guest worker, an H-1B, for a job that thousands of unemployed Americans have the skills to do.

It is is pure fiction to claim displacing U.S. workers creates jobs.

This is a pure corporate lobbyist cheap labor arbitrage agenda and obviously the White House is bought in.

Are Insurance/Legal/Attorney Industry jobs outsourced?

I thought Obama was working to reverse all the outsourcing so Americans can get back to work. To hear this is devastating. What is going on in this country? There does not seem to be any loyalty to American workers IT workers that is for sure. Has anyone heard if colleges are cutting back on the MIS or Computer Science degrees? Because the way things are headed it doesn't look like an attractive profession anymore. Does anyone know if the Insurance/Legal/Attorney industries are outsourced?

 

back office

anything that that doesn't require to be licensed in the U.S. or State has been offshore outsourced, especially back office work.

No, there is no loyalty to the U.S. workers.

Colleges are lobbying to turn the U.S. into an instant green card ATM so they can replace the lost U.S. students with foreign students.

 

Are there any Professions not outsourced?

Since It jobs are so unstable I guess I can't plan for a future in this profession anymore. Wish I would have known this would have been the case when I picked this as my degree in college. Can anyone tell me what jobs AREN'T outsourced and pays a decent salary because I have a student loan to pay off. Thanks

 

They use computers in Health Care

Health care is the one place where outsourcing seems to have made few inroads. There have been plenty of attempts and certainly a lot of H1-B visas allowed, but so far the demand has continued to outstrip the supply. That's exactly why the Federal government has been called in to regulate the industry. It continues to grow as the rest of our industries would have had our industrial base not all been exported to Communist Red China.

On the up side for you, they do need programmers in the health care field, so you might bias your studies toward health care right now.

 

Your tax dollars going to China

I know of several professors at Georgia Tech that won't hire grad students to work on research contracts unless they are from China or India. In fact, I'll name names if I can get at list of at least some of them without putting my source's job in jeopardy. These bastards are taking our tax dollars and spending them on educating foreign students exclusively. That's not even to mention the many more professors who routinely hire both foreign and domestic grad students to work on research funded by us. What is this country coming to? We are just expected to take this garbage too. If we don't, we get called all sorts of bad names - because that's what passes for debate in today's society.

 

outsourcing jobs

I feel that many large US Corporations are replacing many of their IT workers with Indian consultants on various Visas. As an IT Professional I am concerned because it seems many managers/corporations are very pro-outsource IT jobs. My friend works at a large corporation and he said there are about 40 jobs outsourced either off shore or on shore and some of the jobs aren't all that technical. When I asked what some of them do he said they are just adding/removing users, uploading files. He also said some of the Visa consultants are needing technical training. And when my friend approached the manager about why he should be training a technical consultant the manager never even responded. I am concerned because I have a friend who is an IT Professional and is layed off and who could easily be doing that job. Also, shouldn't these 40 jobs be going to recent IT Graduates looking for work?

 

Oppress the white guy

Since I already brought up the continuing inequalities of our educational institutions, and not to get too far off topic, but I ran across this article this morning summarizing the results of some recent educational studies.  It turns out if you're white and poor, you're the most oppressed minority in the US by far.  Good luck getting anywhere in life, because you are LEGALLY OPRESSED!

Espenshade and Radford in their survey found the actual situation to be much more troubling. At the private institutions in their study whites from lower-class backgrounds incurred a huge admissions disadvantage not only in comparison to lower-class minority students, but compared to whites from middle-class and upper-middle-class backgrounds as well. The lower-class whites proved to be all-around losers. When equally matched for background factors (including SAT scores and high school GPAs), the better-off whites were more than three times as likely to be accepted as the poorest whites (.28 vs. .08 admissions probability). Having money in the family greatly improved a white applicant's admissions chances, lack of money greatly reduced it. The opposite class trend was seen among non-whites, where the poorer the applicant the greater the probability of acceptance when all other factors are taken into account. Class-based affirmative action does exist within the three non-white ethno-racial groupings, but among the whites the groups advanced are those with money.
 
When lower-class whites are matched with lower-class blacks and other non-whites the degree of the non-white advantage becomes astronomical: lower-class Asian applicants are seven times as likely to be accepted to the competitive private institutions as similarly qualified whites, lower-class Hispanic applicants eight times as likely, and lower-class blacks ten times as likely. These are enormous differences and reflect the fact that lower-class whites were rarely accepted to the private institutions Espenshade and Radford surveyed. Their diversity-enhancement value was obviously rated very low.

But what Espenshade and Radford found in regard to what they call "career-oriented activities" was truly shocking even to this hardened veteran of the campus ideological and cultural wars. Participation in such Red State activities as high school ROTC, 4-H clubs, or the Future Farmers of America was found to reduce very substantially a student's chances of gaining admission to the competitive private colleges in the NSCE database on an all-other-things-considered basis. The admissions disadvantage was greatest for those in leadership positions in these activities or those winning honors and awards. "Being an officer or winning awards" for such career-oriented activities as junior ROTC, 4-H, or Future Farmers of America, say Espenshade and Radford, "has a significantly negative association with admission outcomes at highly selective institutions." Excelling in these activities "is associated with 60 or 65 percent lower odds of admission."  -- How Diversity Punishes Asians, Poor Whites and Lots of Others

 

age women, blacks, hispanics

Age discrimination is institionalized, especially in Silicon valley. Over 50% of women engineers are forced out of their careers (I cannot remember, it's amazingly short, either 10 or 15 years), Black engineering schools literally shut down and Black engineers are nowhere to be seen in Silicon valley and Hispanics too (yes folks, there are engineers of Hispanic ethnicity).

Sen. Jim Webb has some very good ideas to make "help" programs by economic disadvantage. There is no doubt anymore that economic factors are the thing killing the future. Education has become unaffordable, even K-12, it's tough for the poor to graduate even.

 

Racism does not fix racism

Bottom line is, racism exists. We all know that. It will not, however, be fixed by more racism. Especially not by racism against young white males whose only mistakes in life were growing up poor in a red state. They can no more control that than they can the color of their skin. All it will really do is lend more power and credibility to dangerous white supremicist groups.

We cannot continue to oppress our best and brightest simply because they are our best and brightest and have a civilization that survives. Remember that idiot Muslim car bomber that tried to blow up times square (here on an H1-B visa)? Imagine what would have happened if he'd had a brain. He would have killed hundreds of people. Smart people can either be a blessing to a civilization that treats them well, or they can be a dangerous weapon against a society that excludes them.

 

"racist xenophobe"

is simply a public relations campaign to shut down any facts. Take the AZ law as an example. You don't see the Obama administration suing any cities for Sanctuary laws. That's an overriding of Federal Law.

But in terms of using the race card for any of this, the numbers speak for themselves. Somehow I do not believe entire divisions and entire employee rolls of India males between the ages of 24-30 is diversity in action.

That said, ignoring H-1B and L-1 for a moment, sexism and sex discrimination is alive and well in tech. Age discrimination is literally institutionalized.

So, perhaps you need to focus on discrimination against U.S. citizens, against U.S. workers.

 

Live together or die alone

I often think there is so much emphasis on what divides us, Republicans vs. Democrats, races, religions, class, even sports rivalries have taken on almost religious cleansing overtones. Right now we need our government to look out for our interests. Instead we have top government officials getting major campain contributions from the Saudis, Mexicans, and Chinese. We are called racist xenophobes for believing that America should be for Americans without regard to the fact that we are a nation made up of many races. If we cannot turn this around, if we cannot find common ground, if we cannot come together as Americans and build a consensus on issues like immigration, securing our borders, and protecting our markets, if we cannot stand together we will surely die alone.

 

Political parties almost the same

This is leadership, but both want to offshore outsource your job and it's a matter of degrees. As far as immigration goes it appears in spite of the never ending "shove it down your throat" by the media, this administration, past ones, the American people aren't buying it.

That's the problem. Few are happy with Obama and instead of getting real policy and bills that work, we get even more corporate lobbyist agenda as the "alternative".

I don't think there is that much difference between conservative and progressive (I'll leave out liberal and corporacrats). Both want smart policy that works and is common sense. Notice they never talk about the DoD budget, only continually trying to privatize social security. They don't talk about cost reduction or the for profit health care system, they talk about benefit reduction.

All of that is a corporate/special interest agenda and most of America doesn't want it.

Same is true on immigration. Despite the massive media campaign where one sees some sob story daily on the front page, yet if some illegal rapes a child that magically doesn't make it to the front page....it sure appears from the polls Americans are not buying it and more and more flipping away from Democrats because they know it's a corporate/special interest agenda to labor arbitrage U.S. workers and keep those cheap labor flows...flowing, unabated.

 

Cutting Defense

If they ever do cut defense, it's a matter of eliminating some weenie program that didn't have enough political cover. The only thing they ever cut is bases and soldiers. Never programs.

What we really need in defense is for a fundamental change in how the DoD buys weapons. Right now they fund design and development of weapons with a profit of about 10%. All that does is ensure companies drag out development as long as possible. Why ever stop developing a weapon when you're making a profit?

Back before the late '70s defense companies all spent their own money developing and designing weapons. They only made money when they were able to sell them to the US government. Until the early '90s companies were only reimbursed for development. They didn't make a profit unless they were able to sell actual weapons.

Now it takes 25 years to design a fighter jet. Back then it only took 5 years. That's supposed to be progress? No thanks. Ever hear the news media talk about any of this?

 
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